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Jaap's site unavailable

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:44 am
by 1333david
I'm hoping someone has a good copy of Jaap's Psion II site. I've been on there a couple of times and have received
a 503 service unavailable message from the host nearlyfreespeech.net. Would be terrible if we lose this excellent resource site.

Re: Jaap's site unavailable

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:21 pm
by PaulK
All working for me at 19:20 hrs in the UK

Cheers
Paul

Jaap's site unavailable - Back up and running

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:32 pm
by Martin
Whew that was close... It's a worry...

Martin

Re: Jaap's site unavailable

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:47 am
by PaulK
Indeed!

I'm not a web guy, but is it easy to duplicate his site, assuming we got his permission?

Can we store a local copy somewhere?

As already said, it's an invaluable resource for Psion Org 2 loving folk!

Cheers
Paul

Psion II - ARCHIVE

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:58 am
by Martin
With due regard to Jaap he is not as active on his Psion II pages as he is on his interesting Mechanical Calculating Machines (YouTube) channel. Of course his site evolved from Dave Woolnough's (www.org2.com) site where Dave wrote.
this site is dedicated to the Psion Organiser II range of hand held computers. It was deemed necessary because since the introduction of the Series 3 / 3a / 3c / 5 and Siena, Psion PLC has almost ceased their support for the Organiser II, the 'Psion Organiser II Homepage' was created to correct this situation!
In the summer of 1997 Jaap joined as Software specialist and soon became fully responsible for maintaining the site pages on a day-to-day basis. With Boris Cornet joining later as Chatline supervisor, which he evolved into the original yellow Organiser II (Forum).

Of course they were not the only enthusasts visiting Dave's web-site - In the February 2002 edition of the sites auction section you might notice a certain Greek enthusiast negotiating with the soon to be 'sourcerer' for an LZ and 2 32K rampacks for £55.

Salvaged
I've rescued and republished as much as I can from this WayBackMachine Archive. But of course this was before Jaap published his excellent Jape Emulator and OPK File Editor so losing these would be a great loss.

Sincerely Martin

Re: Jaap's site unavailable

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:08 pm
by Lostgallifreyan
I just checked Jaap's site, and it was up, so probably ok. A '503' error might be something you'd see if anything like Cloudflare was mediating your access.

I once used WGET to get an entire copy of his site. When I realised just how big that was (1.174GB!) I told him I'd done it. That much data, it would be impolite not to... He didn't mind, but I doubt he'd want to see a repeat. My basis, which he accepted, was that my heavy use of it might eventually use more bandwidth than using a local copy.

He does update it, some important changes occurred since I got a copy (JAPE being the most obvious example). If there is any danger of it disappearing, I'll look at WGET to see if it can use a light tough to avoid clobbering any files in my local store that are identical, to update the local archive. WGET re-writes URL's to point to local files in a single base directory. Rendering of pages is as it should be. While it remains likely that he'd prefer that all accesses are to his site so he can gauge external interest by logging, I will not make my copy available, but I'm mentioning it now so that people know that at worst, there will be very little loss if his site does vanish without warning. He may even make some direct announcement beforehand.

I did look briefly at JAPE while confirming that it uses identical ROM images to hardware Organisers, but JAPE uses JavaScript a lot, and WGET probably won't trace all files the way it can with HTML, so if JAPE is ever available as a local subsystem it might depend on whether Jaap wants to make it so. I think it can be reversed engineered to do it but I don't want to do anything without Jaap's knowledge and agreement.

Re: Jaap's site unavailable

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:39 am
by amenjet
I have some information here:

https://github.com/blackjetrock/psion-o ... nformation

It's a collection of things on the internet and some notes I have made. I have used github as it's independent of me, although it does rely on github continuing...

It might be an idea to index these sites on the forum somewhere?

Index

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:46 am
by Martin
amenjet wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:39 am
It might be an idea to index these sites on the forum somewhere?
Another good idea... done (here)

Martin